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Sunday, May 4, 2014

Almost Hot Rod Time.......

My regular readers probably know my Chevelle went boom last year. Well I have the new head, and a new block, but this is what I'm thinking.....
I can get a stroked 496 short block for about $3500.00. Since things are looking up in the financial dept, I'm really thinking that's what I'm gonna do.
The short block will have all forged lower parts, pistons and crank and a brand new block. So I'd be starting with brand new stuff, not shit that's 45 years old. With 10.3 to 1 compression and for another grand a solid roller cam, I would have one hot setup, with my aluminum heads, intake and water pump, it'd be almost as light as a small block with almost 600 HP !!!!!!
Oh I'm so gonna get in trouble............
Let me know what you think, and if any of you crazy patriots get up here, free rides !!!!....…
Now if I can get my garage cleaned out, and the junk block out of the car........... ;)
             
                 

34 comments:

  1. Who are you thinking of getting the engine from?

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    1. Jegs, or Summit, or Pace, not sure yet.......

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    2. Never heard of Pace, but I've bought things from Jeg's and Summit and have been satisfied.

      So what happened to the engine that you were using, and is the block "junk" just because it's a two-bolt main?

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    3. It went boom, sucked a valve, cracked a cylinder, not fun....... ;-(

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  2. That doesn't sound fun at all.

    So, some thoughts from a fellow wrench turner. ;) Is this block a stroked 454 or a custom bore? will the assembly be balanced? if you're planning on 10.3 to 1 and a solid cam, I'd suggest a 292 cam, at least, not that you need me to tell you how to build it. :)

    That will be a screamer. :)

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  3. go for it! you only live once so LIVE!

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  4. OUCH!

    Never had an engine drop a valve on me......

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    1. It was kinda my fault, when I was putting the heads together, one of the rocker studs was junk, well I thought a stock one would work, but it is a bit shorter, so it through off my vavle geometry and pushed on that valve. After 2000 miles it had beat up the guide enough to break it, so it went through the piston and cracked the cylinder. It sucked badly........

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    2. Drjim
      I deleted your comment by mistake, but my buddy said the same thing about hydraulic cams, so I'm looking into both......... ;-)

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  5. I know a fellow patriot with a LS1 sitting in the garage... if your interested.

    Also if you took care of your shit and knew how to handle real power.. your shit wouldn't blow up. HAHAHAHAHAAAA

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    1. Have you ever built a hot motor ?? Its not as easy as it seems, its a learning experience, and I always learn the hard way......... ;-/

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    2. Ummm all motors are hot when you touch them...lol . I also always learn the hard way!! , very expensive.

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    3. Better than being a dumbass!

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    4. Lol, yes, yes it is....... ;)

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  6. Do it a 600hp ride might get me to step foot in Ohio once more:)

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    1. Come on up buddy...... ;)

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    2. Bubba if you come to Ohio I will show up for the occasion!

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    3. Sounds like a plan........ ;)

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  7. I could put that in a ditch real quick!

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    1. You do have to be extremely careful, it does get squrrely, but the suspension is new and set up really sweet.......

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    2. Just go straight. That's all I've ever been interested in and as quick as possible. :)

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    3. You are correct, sir. ...... ;)

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  8. Mike

    Check these guys out -
    www.competitionproducts.com
    I used to get parts from them, back when I ran dirt cars.

    Just a couple thoughts -

    10.3 is cutting it pretty close on today's fuel.
    You could avoid detonation by cutting Premium unleaded with CAM II, or adding octane boosters. That is expensive though. I try to aim for 9 to 9.5 on the street.

    Be realistic on your cam choice.
    A radical grind with a choppy idle sounds bad-ass, but they are miserable to drive around town in traffic. I've got a guy here at work with a Camaro, who asked my opinion, then listened to everyone else. That thing is over cammed with race port heads, and it is a P.I.G. ! From light to light my Taurus can kick his ass. By time he gets into the power-band of the motor, it's well above 85mph. The tech guys at CompCams are very helpful, as long as you are honest with their questions.

    Roller cams make more power, but they are harder on the valve train.
    Accordingly, the components must be more robust - ie, more expensive. Money skimped here will cost a lot more down the road. Having good luck with their products, I again recommend CompCams.

    In my opinion (and we ALL know about opinions....), I think you would be happier with a 450HP motor.
    A torquey beast, with acceptable street manners, has always been more fun for me to drive than a peaky race motor. I do speak from experience on this one.

    Ultimately, the final decision is yours and I look forward to seeing the results.

    Leigh
    Whitehall, NY

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    1. Well, I ran my 427 with 10.3 on 91 octane and had no problems with detonation, even with a bunch of advance in it. And yes you are absolutely right on the cam, I had a L88 can in it when I put it in the Chevelle (out of my Camaro) and it ran like shit just cruising it around, I then put one a step up from the 425 HP can in it, and loved it. I will talk to whoever I buy it from, to find what roller can I should use, fuck the flat tappet, I'm done worrying about wiping a cam on break in, now that the oil sucks... ;)

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    2. OK, it sounds like you have it covered!
      The only problem I have with using a roller cam in a standard block is the cost - standard hyd. roller lifters start at 300-400 bucks and just go up from there. Now if you manage to find a late model block with a factory roller, that's a different story.

      Yeah, I am going to run Lucas ZDP additive in the motor I am building for my father's '67 Mustang. Knock wood - I haven't wiped a cam out in twenty years. Not going to be a daily driver, so buying special additives won't be too much of an issue.

      302 over .030; FT Speed Pros; Gasket matched-bowl blended-polished & ported heads; CC XE256 cam; mid-rise dual plane intake; and a 600 vac sec Holley. I'm figuring some where between 250 and 275 HP.
      It'll be pretty snappy in a 2600 lb car. Should give my supercharged 5.0 T-Bird a helluva run when I get them both finished!

      Our kind of speed is just as addictive and expensive as the other kind!

      Leigh
      Whitehall, NY

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    3. Just not as taxing on the old brain..... ;)
      Never owned a Ford, almost, I almost bought a 69 Mach 1 in 89, dark red, slats, magnum's, all the spoilers, it was sweet, it had a Windsor instead of a Cleveland, that killed the deal........ ;(

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    4. A Windsor isn't a bad engine. With the rise of the 5.0 aftermarket, you can actually build a fairly competitive 351W, for reasonable money. The Cleveland is still pretty expensive to build. According to what IdahoBob has said, he's got a rather stout Windsor poked and stroked to 406. There are kits out there that will get you up to 454 cubes out of a Windsor. You will need a SVO block at that point, though.

      I've lusted mightily over fast back Mustangs since I was a kid. The Boss, SCJ's, and 2+2's are all at the top of my wish list. I do know where there is a 1 of 500, '69 GT500KR Convertible - 100% original. My buddy's uncle was offered $80k for it. he told them to take a flying leap!

      So many toys, so little money!

      Leigh
      Whitehall, NY

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    5. I know now that they're good motors, but that was 87, it was a beautiful car........

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  9. Damn, I sure need a project to work on. Sounds like that is going to be one kick ass ride. The last Chevelle I drove was a customers and that thing would get sideways in a heart beat. Too much time in that car and I wouldn't have a licence.

    I'd really like to find a Mustang with a 428 cobra jet. That would be a good spot to start a Ford build. First, I need to build a shop.
    Money, the root of all fun. :)

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    1. Ain't that the truth, its all about money....... ;-/

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